Talk:Carson Kelly

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Reviewer: GhostRiver (talk · contribs) 00:10, 31 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I can take a look at this during teacher prep tomorrow! — Ghost River 00:10, 31 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Criteria: 1a. prose () 1b. MoS () 2a. ref layout () 2b. cites WP:RS () 2c. no WP:OR () 2d. no WP:CV ()

3a. broadness () 3b. focus () 4. neutral () 5. stable () 6a. free or tagged images () 6b. pics relevant ()

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Infobox and lede

Mention in the lede (probably right before the sentence beginning "In the coming years") that he switched from third base to catcher while in the minors
No comma needed after "catcher in a season"

Early life and career

WL Chicago, Illinois
""always seemed to find a way to win."" → ""always seemed to find a way to win"." per MOS:LQ
"though the Kellys also lived in Toronto briefly when Carson was 12" → "although he and his family also briefly lived in Toronto when Kelly was 12." (just to reduce the number of subjects)
Pipe "junior year" to Junior (education)

Professional career

St. Louis Cardinals

I would split this section into minor and major leagues, as his time in the minors receives roughly equal space right now
"in the second around and 86th overall selection of the" → "in the second round, 86th overall, of the"
Mention that Kelly believed the switch would make him more valuable in the Cardinals' system (a common theme with catchers – I don't know why nobody wants the job that kills your knees and gets no respect!)
Baseball America is double-linked, remove the link in the third paragraph
I see you have his overall minor league stats for 2016, but I'd also like to see Springfield separately, just to ease the transition from Springfield to Memphis (i.e. "after batting XYZ, Kelly was promoted to the Memphis Redbirds...")
Mention that September is when major league rosters open from 25 to 40 players
I don't think you need to mention the 0 home runs
"1 RBI" → "one RBI" per MOS:NUMBERS
The reference attached to the sentence He returned to Memphis to begin 2017 does not relate to the sentence – the source is actually from 2015!
"July 14, his birthday." → "July 14, his 23rd birthday."
"2018 season; Baseballl America ranked" → "2018 season, while Baseball America ranked"

Arizona Diamondbacks

"1st baseman" → "first baseman"
Add apostrophe in "The Diamondbacks' fourth-best prospect"
"a game that set a record for the longest ever played at Dodger Stadium, lasting six hours and five minutes." → "a game that lasted for six hours and five minutes, setting a record for the longest ever played at Dodger Stadium."
The ESPN article mentions that the D-backs started the season with three catchers; in looking for the other two, I found this article where Torey Lovullo says that he wants Kelly, Alex Avila, and John Ryan Murphy to be a "three-headed monster".
Specify (both here and in the lede) whether his 18 home runs were a record for any MLB catcher or for the club
"COVID-19 situation" → "COVID-19 pandemic"
- Changed to impact of COVID-19 instead. The term pandemic is still controversial with some people, whereas impact is definitely accurate and will be more universally received. Sanfranciscogiants17 (talk) 03:27, 2 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
And change the WL to Impact of the COVID-19 pandemic on sports
Mention that Kelly had to come in to pitch a game because Madison Bumgarner had to come out after two innings (source here)
Do we know why he only played in 39 games in 2020? Was he just splitting time with someone, or was there an injury/illness situation going on?

Personal life

"Parker played two seasons" → "Parker played for two seasons"

References

"OregonLive.com" → "The Oregonian"
Add the location parameter of "Peoria, IL" to Journal-Star (5), to distinguish from the Lincoln Journal Star
"CentreDaily.com" → "Centre Daily Times"
"Quad Cities Online" → "The Dispatch / The Rock Island Argus"
Add the parameter "|url-access=subscription" to the two Athletic references (44 and 51) and "|url-access=limited" to Forbes (41)

General comments

Images are properly licensed and are relevant to the article
Stability is not a concern; one primary prose editor and regular stats updates
Copyvio score is quite high, but that's clearly due to a mirror site. Every respectable site is at a much lower level.
From a purely aesthetic perspective, there is some MOS:SANDWICH happening with the two Cardinals photos. I would move the one of him catching further down, since the lede image is also of Kelly catching.

Putting on hold to address comments. I love advisory periods when I don't have to teach. — Ghost River 13:26, 1 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

GhostRiver Thanks for making excellent use of your time during teachers prep! :) Changes addressed; let me know if anything more is needed. Sanfranciscogiants17 (talk) 03:35, 2 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Looks good on my end, promoting now! — Ghost River 17:35, 2 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]